The Conservative Rebel

The MAGA Civil War Has Officially Begun

The Conservative Rebel Episode 17

In just a few months, the fragile coalition that secured Trump’s victory has crumbled into dust. It started with Trump and Elon Musk’s recent feud, it escalated after Trump’s unprovoked attack on Iran, and now, as the Senate passes Trump’s pork-filled mega-bill, it’s become an all-out crisis, with Elon Musk threatening to upend our entire electoral system by creating a new political party. It’s Trump and the new establishment versus America First principles. How did we get here, and why? This is not the episode to miss. The fate of the country is in the balance. The MAGA civil war has officially begun.

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Today on The Conservative Rebel, just a few months into his presidency, the fragile coalition that secured Trump's victory in November has crumbled into dust. The Great MAGA Civil War has officially begun. It started with Trump and Elon Musk's recent feud. It escalated after Trump's unprovoked attack on Iran. And now, as the Senate passes Trump's pork-filled mega-bill, it's become an all-out crisis, with Elon Thank you for watching. It feels like it was just yesterday that we were locked in the battle for our nation's survival, known as the 2024 election. The deep state was waging an all-out war on Donald Trump. The FBI raided Mar-a-Lago, desperately searching for anything they could possibly find to incriminate Trump. Soros-backed DAs were waging lawfare against him that put the most corrupt Third World regimes to shame. They dragged him before kangaroo courts. They convicted him of made-up charges. They tried to throw him in prison. It seems like just yesterday that they shot him at his Butler, Pennsylvania rally, coming within an inch of murdering him. And then when that failed, another assassin tried to kill him again. And it seems like just yesterday that the story ended when he crushed Kamala Harris in the election and was victoriously sworn in as the 47th president. We all remember what the first weeks of the Trump administration felt like. The country was relatively united. Change was in the air. The world was full of hope. The future was bright. Anything seemed possible. The people had reclaimed their country from the deep state. The new golden age of America was upon us. We would have no new wars. The slaughter in Ukraine would end. There would be a ceasefire in Gaza. We would have mass deportations. Tens of millions of illegal aliens would be quickly removed from the country. We would have drastic cuts to government waste, fraud, and abuse. Doge would take a chainsaw to the bureaucracy. Wasteful agencies would be abolished. We could be sure of all this because that's what we had been promised. I remember what it was like. I was just as naive and optimistic as the next guy about it all. I was wrong. The first week or two were great. We were racking up victory after victory. But in just a few months, all of that has changed. The mood of the country has fundamentally changed. Disappointment after disappointment, broken promise after broken promise, has torn the America First movement in two. The Iran situation was obviously a major contributing factor. It cleanly split Trump's base between pro-war neocons like Mark Levin, Lindsey Graham, and their boomer supporters, and anti-war conservatives like Tucker Carlson, Thomas Massey, Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, and their younger supporters. We talked about that last episode. And you can count on this. We will never forget that. We will never forget that Trump gambled with American blood and treasure for the benefit of a foreign country. But the latest failure that's driving a wedge into the heart of the MAGA movement is, of course, Trump's so-called Big Beautiful Bill, which just passed the Senate after J.D. Vance issued the tie-breaking vote in favor of it. After the mega-bill passed the Senate, Trump spokesman Stephen Miller claimed, President Trump is delivering on every single promise he campaigned on. But not only does the big beautiful bill not deliver on Trump's campaign promises, it shatters them into oblivion. Trump promised an end to government waste, fraud, and abuse. This monstrosity increases the deficit and explodes the debt by an estimated$20 trillion in just 10 years. We talked about that in detail a couple episodes back. Trump promised an end to gender ideology. The final version of the Big Beautiful Bill still funds the mutilation of children with your tax dollars, thanks to the losers in the Senate who modified the bill to make sure you will still be forced to pay to inflict irreversible harm on innocent children. Trump promised to reverse Biden's policy of giving illegal aliens welfare. The final version of the bill, again, thanks to the wonderful people in the U.S. Senate, does not change any of that. You'll still be forced to pay for handouts to the very criminal aliens we were promised would be deported. You see, we have to make them as comfortable as possible while they illegally trespass on our soil and violate our sovereignty. And let's not forget Planned Parenthood. Originally, the Big Beautiful Bill was going to defund Planned Parenthood for 10 years. Now it's been scaled back to only one year. That's right, in just one year, you and I will once again be forced to give our hard-earned money to murderers who butcher unborn children for profit. Ask yourself, is this what you voted for? Is this what Trump promised you? Did you vote for taxpayer-funded child abuse? Did you vote for welfare for criminal aliens? Did you vote for debt slavery? If Trump is just fulfilling campaign promises, as Stephen Miller claims, we're going to have to see the footage of Trump promising to explode the national debt by$20 trillion while funding child mutilations and abortions. I could just have a poor memory, but I don't remember Trump telling voters he'd do any of that. In fact, he would have lost the election to Kamala Harris if he had promised any of those things. Almost everything good about the Big Beautiful Bill has been ripped out of it, but all of its most horrible and catastrophic features, like risking the collapse of our monetary system and the bankruptcy of our country, have been kept in it. One of the few good things that survived the Senate is funding for border control, which is why the talking point that went out this entire time has been that we're required to support this bill because if we don't, we can't have a secure border. We must sell ourselves and our children into debt slavery because if we don't, illegal aliens will destroy our country. I reject that narrative, and you should too. Actually, we can deport illegal aliens and cut spending too. It's not an either-or decision. We can, in fact, do both. We have, in fact, done both before. Congress could have easily held a totally separate vote on border control funding and every Republican would have supported it in a heartbeat. Every last one of them. But instead, the people who seem to be hell-bent on bankrupting our country decided to lump that together with everything else, because they knew that might have been the only way they could get this thing passed, is if they convinced people they had to do it, or the border could not be secured and we could not have mass deportations. We were told we had to let our country die through bankruptcy so that it would not die from the illegal alien invasion we've been dealing with. They said we had to choose two deadly poisons to drink. When in reality, we could have just said, no, I don't think I'll drink either one of those poisons. I think we'll deport illegal aliens and not bankrupt our country. How about that? You people want to bankrupt our country? You people want to let it die because of illegal aliens? How about we compromise and we don't let it die because of debt while also not letting it die because of illegal aliens? How about instead of lumping together one catastrophe with one victory, we just take two victories? We could always do that. If you've listened to so far of this podcast, I have a feeling you're interested in it. And if that's true, please consider leaving a review wherever you're listening to this podcast. It would help me out a lot. Now let's get back to the episode. And it's for these reasons that Elon Musk very sensibly opposes this big beautiful bill. That's why it was obviously the cause of the Trump-Elon feud that happened just a few weeks ago, when Mike Johnson, our embarrassment of a House Speaker, was working to get the bill approved in the House. It famously climaxed with Elon Musk accusing Donald Trump of being in the Epstein files. Maybe you remember that. Well, Trump and Elon are at it again. Just as the Big Beautiful Bill was on track to pass the Senate, Elon Musk took to X. Elon Musk dropped a nuclear bomb. For some context, this was right as the Senate was going into its final vote to approve the Big Beautiful Bill. Elon Musk wrote this,"...every member of Congress who campaigned on reducing government spending and then immediately voted for the biggest debt increase in history should hang their head in shame." and they will lose their primary next year if it is the last thing I do on this earth. That post got 36.4 million views, and it sent shockwaves throughout the country. But he didn't stop there. He was in a rage. He was... issuing statements like this all day. He followed up by saying, if this insane spending bill passes, he said in a The America Party will be formed the next day. Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican Uniparty so that the people actually have a voice. Now, I agree with Elon Musk 1000% that the two-party system is stupid and corrupt, and that the Republicans and Democrats have formed a uniparty dedicated to never-ending war, never-ending spending, never-ending debt, and big government. I also agree with him that a third party that's opposed to all of those things would be a wonderful blessing for this country if it could work. That's the critical thing, though. That's the big if. If it could work. And I'm not 100% sure that it could work. Because unless you could get the vast majority of Republicans to join this party, along with a significant number of independents, you would catastrophically split the non-Marxist coalition in two and potentially hand the Democrats back control of the country. That is a very real risk by forming a political party like this. But on the other hand, of course, we're currently living in this cycle where the Democrats completely wreck the country when they're in power, and then the Republicans barely do anything to fix it. They barely make a dent, and then the Democrats get back in power, and they make everything worse again. In some cases, even the Republicans are actively trying to destroy the country. Like for the George W. Bush administration, where everything got worse even though the Republicans controlled everything. So if that cycle continues, then obviously our country is going to die, and electing Republicans is just delaying that catastrophic collapse and putting off that impending doom. Whereas with a third party that actually opposed to these things, it would be a big risk, but potentially a great reward. It would have the potential to save the country. So I don't know what I think about this proposal to establish a third party. If it ever did happen, we'd have to see what happened. But Elon Musk's frustration is 100% understandable with the Republican Party. You cannot deny that. You just can't. You can't deny that the Republican Party is betraying voters and stabbing them in the back and has been doing so for decades. That's just a fact. The idea of Elon Musk's, that's unquestionably a great thing though, no doubt about it, it would be fantastic, is his idea to primary all of these backstabbing traitors who promise to cut spending and to cut waste, fraud, and abuse and then get to D.C. and vote to do the opposite. These absolute lying, cheating losers who for decades have had no accountability The threat of a primary against them is a great thing. These people need to be purged from the Republican Party. They need to be purged from power. And Elon Musk has the money to do this. And the greatest thing about this is Elon Musk and Donald Trump are going to be fighting a proxy war in Thomas Massey's congressional district. Thomas Massey, we've talked about him a lot on the show. He's one of the only ones who came out against this big beautiful bankruptcy bill, and to punish him, to have revenge on him for daring to speak out against this insane mega bill, Trump created a super PAC called Kentucky MAGA that is currently running ads inside his congressional district, spewing all sorts of lies about him, to try to unseat him, to try to purge from power the problem child who won't get in line and who actually thinks for himself and has his own principles. Elon Musk has openly said that he will be funding Thomas Massey's primary against Donald Trump's establishment super PAC. So these two men who were once allies are going to be fighting it out and Elon Musk has a lot more money than Donald Trump does. A lot more money. But let's not get too ahead of ourselves, because we're not allowed to think like this. These are forbidden thoughts. We're not supposed to explore possibilities like this. We're not allowed to take Elon Musk's side on this. We need to trust the plan. Trump's bankruptcy bill is a brilliant 40 chess move, and just like the game of Russian roulette he played with American lives by bombing Iran, you're not allowed to ask questions about it or you're a traitor to MAGA. Trump supported dropping bombs, Trump supported this bill, so you're betraying the America First movement, we're supposed to believe, and betraying Trump himself if you have a different But the America First movement doesn't belong to the President of the United States. It doesn't belong to any politician. This movement belongs to you and I. It belongs to the American people. And the American people are fed up with broken promises. We gave you your chance. We would like our movement back. We should not be buying this narrative that we can never criticize Trump for anything ever and that he's always right about absolutely everything. We need to stop pretending that when we know in our hearts, we know deep down that that is wrong. This is what they always say whenever Trump makes a big mistake. A week ago, you weren't allowed to criticize Trump's high-risk, low-reward decision to bomb Iran, which never attacked us or posed a threat to us, even though doing so clearly violated Trump's promise to put our country first and stay out of foreign wars. It didn't turn out as catastrophically as it could have, but it was still a completely unnecessary risk that we clearly took for the sake of Israel instead of the sake of our own country. This week, the thing we're not allowed to criticize, is the big beautiful bill. You're not allowed to disagree with it, even though you know full well that it clearly violates Trump's promise to cut government waste and reduce spending. And you're also not allowed to question why Trump is deporting illegals at a crawling rate that's close to the monthly averages of the Barack Obama administration, even though Trump promised to mass deport criminal aliens by the millions. We can't question any of it, or we're Trump. We can't notice that all these promises are being broken or we're betraying Trump. But the people who tell you that are lying to you. We're not the ones who broke any promises. We're not the ones betraying anyone's trust. And we're not the ones who have done a complete 180 on very important issues. We don't owe any politician unquestionable loyalty and trust. In fact, it is our duty as Americans, as a free people, to have a healthy dose of cynicism about the people who run the government. We don't owe anyone anything, but I'll tell you who does owe us something. His name is Trump. He promised to take a flamethrower to government waste. He promised no new wars. He promised ruthless mass deportations. So he owes us, the American people, all of those things. And don't let anyone tell you you're a traitor for demanding what you're owed. And definitely don't let anyone call you a rhino or a never-trumper for that, because no one is more pleased with how Trump has chosen to conduct his administration lately than the old never-trumpers and rhinos and neocons, and no one is more disappointed in him than some of his most old and fervent supporters. We need to face the facts. Trump ran against the establishment, but he has become the establishment. Trump ran on no new wars, then immediately risked starting a new war. Trump ran on America first, he gave us Israel first, at least with regard to the Iran strikes. This big beautiful bill is just the latest in a long, long string of disappointments. And You and I need to stop twisting ourselves into pretzel shapes, desperately trying to rationalize Trump's actions, and make excuses for his failures. How many failures will it take? How many broken promises will we tolerate before we finally wake up to this sad truth? This isn't 40 chess, this is betrayal. And the sooner we accept that, the sooner the America First Thanks for listening to this episode of The Conservative Rebel. If you liked it, please leave a review wherever you're listening to this podcast. It helps the show out enormously and helps us reach even more people. Thanks again.